
Stevie and her contemporary poets
(with a quick look at Stevie's possible influence on today's poets)Stevie as outsider?
A poem by Ogden Nash puts the question: ‘ Who or what is Stevie Smith, is she woman? Is she myth?’ and describes her: Slipping from her secret nook/ like a goblin or a spook’ This amusing bit of nonsense reinforces Stevie’s often perceived position as an outsider, as an alien even, on the poetic scene. In an interview with Peter Orr in 1961 she was asked if she considered herself a typical example of a 1961 contemporary poet. She replied:...I’m alive today, therefore I’m just as much a part of our time as everybody else. The times will just have to enlarge themselves to make room for me, won’t they, and for everybody else.
Stevie and 'a la mode' poets
Stevie wrote to L P Hartley in 1955 that it was necessary to be ‘a
la nowadays in poetry... a la Eliot, Spender etc. and soon I fear a la Dylan’.
Dylan Thomas, for his part, once complained that it was ‘tasteless’
to schedule Stevie to read her poetry at a fund raising affair. A
la mode poets did not rush to welcome Stevie as one of them.
Poets pass by
Although many of her friends were writers, she didn’t have many
personal connections of note with other poets of the day. She did know McNiece
and corresponded with him, and she also corresponded with Osbert Sitwell. She
crossed paths with other poets of the day, at the Edinburgh Festival of 1965 a
film crew making a documentary of the festival went into pub and
‘recorded the phenomenon of Stevie and Auden singing hymns together'
But she noted ‘I don’t think Auden liked my poetry very much, he’s very Anglican’
She was agnostic, although she said there was always the danger that she might lapse into belief. She wrote in 1968 that she could not accept the doctrine of hell for unbelievers, and that,
I threw away the sweetness of Christianity and remembered the harsh bones that lay beneath, and I said: It is immoral.
Stevie and T S Eliot
Stevie’s agnosticism made unsympathetic to TS Eliot’s religious
stance. In 1958 she wrote a review of Murder in the Cathedral, and
although Stevie found much to admire she wrote that :
one thinks that Mr Eliot believes his terror-talk of cat-and -mouse damnation, and that with him it’s not a case of having to have some terror about in order to make things more exciting, as seems sometimes to be the case with his fellow religious terror writers. But it seems curious, condemnable really, that so many writers of these times, which need courage and the power of criticism, and coolness, should find their chief delight in terrifying themselves and their readers with past echoes of cruelty and nonsense.
I do not know of any criticism by T S Eliot of Stevie Smith's work.
Stevie's unfashionable humour
One might say that Stevie’s poetry is not without its echoes of cruelty and
nonsense, and despair and death feature prominently, but there is, to
counteract this, something bracing about her poems. They are often dark, but
she does not, in my estimation, sink into the ‘delight’ of terror,
despair and death for its own sake, she confronts them because they exist and
so must be confronted. She is not too proud to use any weapon at her disposal
against terror, and humour is a very effective weapon. Humour as a coping
strategy is well known to soldiers, medical students and doctors. It is not a
strategy much used by ‘serious’ twentieth century poets, it's something that
was perfectly understood by the team that made the TV series ‘Mash’.
Stevie is often relegated to the level of Odgen Nash, even though his amusing
poems can be read once, and that’s that, while I find that Stevie’s can be read again and
again for new meanings.
Philip Larkin's ambivalence
Philip Larkin was interested in her work. In an article,
Frivolous and Vulnerable, written in 1962, he told how he found her
collection of poems Not Waving but Drowning in a bookshop, and
was sufficiently impressed to buy copies for his friends for Christmas. He
goes on to say that this caused surprise, his friends
‘were I think, bothered to know whether I seriously expected them to admire it. The more I insisted that I did, the more suspicious they became. An unfortunate episode.’
He disapproved of the fact that her poems were accompanied by drawings (the hallmark of frivolity ), and that she had published a book about Cats ( casts a shadow over the most illustrious name), but went on to say that her poems had two virtues,
‘ they are completely original, and now and again they are moving’ and ‘ Miss Smith’s poems speak with the authority of sadness. He also wrote : ‘It is typical of Miss Smith to see something poetic move where we do not, takes a pot shot at it and forces us to admit that there was something there, even though we have never seen anything like it before.’
Larkin, then, took her seriously, up to a point.
Sylvia Plath 'a desperate Smith
addict'
One poet who admired her was Sylvia Plath. In an article in the
London Magazine Sylvia was asked what living poets continue to
influence her and she had replied
‘ The poets that I delight in are possessed by their rhythms as by the rhythms of their own breathing. Their finest poems seem born all-of-a piece, not put together by hand: certain poems in Robert Lowell’s life studies, for instance, Theodore Roethke’s greenhouse poems: some of Elisabeth Bishop and a great deal of Stevie Smith.’
Sylvia wrote to Stevie in November 1962,
‘I better say straight out that I am addict of your poetry, a desperate Smith addict’
she told Stevie that she was hoping to come to London with her babies, and asked in advance if Stevie would come to tea when she had settled in
‘ to cheer me on a bit. I’ve wanted to meet you for a long time.’
Stevie wrote hoping that Sylvia’s move went well so that they could meet, although she confesses to reading hardly any contemporary poetry, and by inference, that she did not know Plath’s work. Sylvia committed suicide in February 1963 and they never met.
Stevie and feminist writers
Stevie has been claimed as a feminist writer but she does not fit
easily into this category. Her review of one of Simone de Beauvoir’s feminist
books was blunt:
‘ Miss de Beauvoir has written an enormous book about women and it is soon clear that she does not like them and does not like being a woman.’
Stevie wrote that the differences between male and female poets are best seen when the poets are bad:
Bad women poets are better characters, they seldom... get drunk ... go to prison ... shoot the pianist. Their faults are soul fullness and banality. They like to commune (who does not) with the deity, nature, and themselves, but their words do not quite carry the traffic ... some bad men poets can persuade people ... that tricks and shocks are a substitute for talent ... good poets of either sex are above these quarrels.
Admitting to female inadequacies and proclaiming that for the best poets gender is almost irrelevant is not the usual feminist stance.
Can Stevie carry the traffic
Seamus Heaney, in an essay entitled A Memorable Voice, talks of her
'variety and inventiveness, much humour and understanding, and a constant poignancy... Death, waste, loneliness, cruelty, the maimed, the stupid, the trusting - her concerns were central ones, her compassion genuine and her vision almost tragic
but then declares that :
I suppose in the end the adjective has to be eccentric ... And finally the voice, the style, the literary resources are not adequate to the sombre recognitions ...
( in his opinion, maybe, a second rate female failure to carry the traffic ).
Playing poetic games
However Heaney, like Larkin and Dylan Thomas, wrote in a different
mode, and I believe that their judgements and those of other contemporary
poets and critics
could be coloured by their view of what is the right way to write poetry and
what poetry should be. In spite of their judgements, or lack of them, on
Stevie's work, many readers find that Stevie’s poems do move them profoundly,
and that it is enchanting and invigorating to play her games. These qualities
matter more to 'Smith addicts' than her refusal to ‘play the
game’ according to the rules of other poets, and are more important than
the question of whether she is an ‘important’ poet.
A strong communication
In her essay on the Muse, written in 1960, she writes,
.All poetry has to do is to make a strong communication. All the poet has to do is listen. The poet is not an important fellow. There will also be another poet
Stevie emerges from the dark
These words suggest to me that poetry is not a network like a
spiders web that connects famous and important poets, but is something more like
a fungus, whose main body is underground and invisible. It appears above
ground in the shape of poets, which grow like mushrooms from the hidden
network of its body. Stevie grew strongly from this body, and her poems, like
all other poetry, are
part of the beginning and end of all poetry.
Echoes of Stevie
What then of Stevie’s relationship to the poets that have come after her? It is impossible to imitate Stevie, a pastiche of her style would be so awful that it would be found out at once, so it is not easy to know which poets may have been influenced by her. Sylvia Plath appears to have understood what Stevie achieved in her poetry, but I cannot see from reading Sylvia’s poems that Stevie influenced her.The poet Vicki Feaver, when asked in Poetry News Spring 2001 what eight poems she couldn’t do without included Stevie's 'Frog Prince'. She went on to explain that:
I began by loving Stevie Smith. Then I tried to write a PhD thesis on her and hated her. Now I love her again, precisely because she is so elusive, so resistant to academic criticism. The Frog Prince would remind me of the possibilities of entering an existing story and employing a mask. The frog’s comically angstful monologue is the vehicle not just for a playful revision of the familiar story but for a profound meditation on the contradictory nature of desire.
Vicki Feaver has written two collections of poems and is a professor of Poetry. In an interview on http://magmapoetry.com/poem.php?article_id=43 she does not list Stevie among the poets that have influenced her, but I noticed that she had written a poem called the River God, which is also the title of one of Stevie’s poems. In Vicki Feaver’s poem, which can be read on the magmapoetry interview, she writes of a domesticated River God. In his slippers he has almost been made safe, pathetic even. Yet there’s also, in the suggestion in his wet footprints that must be hurriedly mopped up by his wife because they might become springs that could flood the house, or a river that might drown her, an echo of Stevie’s River God who enticed a beautiful lady to his bed.
Here are some extracts from Stevie's River God poem.
I may be smelly and I may be old
Rough in my pebbles, reedy in my pools,
But where my fish float by I bless their swimming
And I like the people to bathe in me especially women...O I may be an old foul river but I have plenty of go
Once there was a lady who was too bold
She bathed in me by the tall black cliff where the water runs cold,
So I brought her down here
To be my beautiful dear ...
Oh who would guess what a beautiful white face lies there
Waiting for me to smooth away the fear
She looks at me with...
The poems ends: If she wishes to go I will not forgive her.
As with the the reading together of Browning's Childe Roland and Stevie's Childe Rolandine poems, (see Stevie and the Dark Tower) I found that an interesting resonance resulted when I read the two River God poems together.
Stevie Today
Like Vicki Feaver, I began by loving Stevie when I first bought her Collected Poems about 12 years ago, and the feeling I had that she was speaking to me has never faded. Judging by the number of people who access this site, I would guess that Stevie also still speaks to many others. I have found that my appreciation of her has deepened over time, and although I have, thank heavens, never had to fit her into any PhD or essay on critical theory, when I have looked harder at her poems in order to write about her my respect for her has increased. I think though, that to appreciate her poetry one has to be willing to cast aside a lot of preconceptions, to look carefully at her poems, and to follow her through the contradictions and the masks, games and teasing language through which she reveals herself.If you have any ideas on whether Stevie's influence is still felt by poets writing today, send me an e mail. I would like to add interesting ideas on this subject to this page (with acknowledgements of course).
Sources
The quotations come from: Stevie
Smith, a Critical Biography, by Frances Spalding, published by Faber in 1988
and republished in 2002, Stevie, a Biography of Stevie Smith by Jack
Barbera and William McBrien, published by William Heinmann Ltd in 1985 and now
out of print, Me Again, Uncollected Writings of Stevie Smith, published by
Virago Press in 1981 and also out of print and In Search of Stevie Smith edited
by Stanford Sternlicht and published in 1991 by Syracuse University Press, New
York.
Anne Bryan
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If you aren't familiar with Stevie’s poems give yourself a treat and buy Stevie Smith’s ‘Collected Poems’ available in American bookshops or on www.amazon.com or, as a second best, buy the ‘Selected Poems’, available in UK bookshops or from amazon.co.uk.
| Stevie Smith homepage |
| Stevie Smith Biography - a short account of Stevie's life and work. |
|
Stevie Smith Festival at Palmer’s Green |
| Childe Rolandine - Browning's 'Childe Rolande to the Dark Tower Came' as a source for Stevie's 'Childe Rolandine'. |
| The Jungle Husband - the jungle is 'green on top' but dark inside |
| The Frog Prince - a dive into a deceptively simple poem with hidden depths |
| Stevie's religious poems - Stevie questions God |
| Stevie and her contemporary poets - Stevie in the poetry scene of her day |
| A Turn Outside - A Radio Play by Stevie, adapted and set to music by Simon Rowland-Jones |
| Stevie links - links to other sites on Stevie Smith |
| An Evening with Stevie Smith - a reading of Stevie Smith's poetry in Cardiff |
| Blue Plaque the Poet Laureate unveils a blue plaque at Stevie's house |
| Remembering Stevie at Torquay - where her ashes were scattered |
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